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[sparkles]

Has anyone ever successfully made a tincture or extract from Kratom? In theory it should work like any other extraction, but I don't know exactly how to go about doing it and have found several variations for methods online. Would a heat extraction be better, or some combination of methods? High proof vodka? Everclear?

[quantum]

Hi Sparkles, Everclear would be the best for making tinctures. I always use heat when I make my tinctures as it speeds the process significantly. If you can't get everclear vodka will work as well. Katom is a good candidate for tincture as the alkaloids present are soluable in alcohol.

[sparkles]

Cool, thank you quantum! A liquor store near me just started carrying everclear. I'll have to buy some and just try to not feel like a frat guy when I do it.

What proportions do you use?

[quantum]

The kratom should be powdered as it often already is. You want to use as much kratom in relation to the alcohol as you possibly can. You want to concentrate it as much as possible, so your tincture will be as strong as possible. Trust your instincts, a few tinctures from now you'll be as proficient at making them as I am. Hands on is the best way to learn. I believe you will do well with it and so should you. Peace,love, and respect-Quantum

[corockymtnhgh]

when i have some money this is my next adventure,,,, making kratom extract!!!! i bet this would work pretty good for pain too!

[quantum]

Kratom alkaloids are very soluble in alcohol. I would suggest the kratom be finely powdered to facilitate a good extraction and heat be used to speed up the process. A strong kratom tincture should be easily obtainable. Alcohol readily and rapidly enters the system,so a tincture should be a very efficient methode of ingestion.

[hardderperformance]

Kratom alkaloids are very soluble in alcohol. I would suggest the kratom be finely powdered to facilitate a good extraction and heat be used to speed up the process. A strong kratom tincture should be easily obtainable. Alcohol readily and rapidly enters the system,so a tincture should be a very efficient methode of ingestion.

I am still new to this stuff quantum,, but what the hell is tincture? it sounds fun,,and how do i make it?? i too have lower back problems and scoliaosis,,and i have allready been down the oxycontin road got up to over 300mg/day, now on suboxone and my back f'ing hurts so maybe this is somthing that could help,, i also miss the oxy hi, but therrs no way i'm going to start oxy again ,, i hope anyways,, the mind wants, what the mind wants,,

[quantum]

Tinctures are made by soaking the herbs in alcohol(beverage grade if it is to be consumed). Alcohol dissolves the alkaloids better than water and it helps to preserve them as well. A tincture of kratom could be made by soaking kratom in beverage grade alcohol in a mason jar and placing the mason jar in a pot of boiling water till the alcohol boils. Lots of agitation helps facilitate a good extraction. Basically your making very very strong tea with alcohol instead of water. Peace,love and respect.

[spacehippy]

SO I gave it a try. Not wanting to waste a bunch of Kratom on my first try, I took 3 teaspoons of powdered Bali and barely covered with vodka in a 1/2 pint mason jar. Put it in a pot of water and brought the temp up to about 140, just barely starting to bubble. Instead of boiling the alcohol inside, I simmered for about 20 minutes, thinking about Quantum's statement that it's basically making tea with alcohol.
What I got was a ball of Kratom mud. Dropped this into a wire mesh strainer and pressed it with a spoon over a small bowl. Nice dark brown to black liquid came out. Not much, but enough to test.
Straining is a bitch. I must've passed it through the mesh strainer 7 or 8 times, losing alkaloids each time, and still had a grainy residue unfit for a dropper.
Taking too much Kratom is no fun, so I started with 5 drops. Felt like this is definitely worthwhile, but still threshold.
I'm going to order an ounce of crushed leaf and try it again with the whole amount, and simmer at a bit higher heat for say, 30 minutes. I'll report back with my findings.

[quantum]

Hi Spacehippy, When making extractions such as these. After the mix is heated with the alcohol to extract,the material being extracted will usually settle to the bottom as the mix cools. It is usually better to decant the liquid from the top with a turkey baster or similar item rather than try to filter it. It gives a much improved extraction if the material being extracted is powdered,but this makes filtering difficult. Decanting the solute from the top is the way to go bro. Peace,love and respect.

[spacehippy]

Quantum! Long time, no see, brother!
Thanks for the tip. I guess for this method I put a little too little vodka in. I just barely covered the powder, so it became more like a mud.
I'm running low on Bali, but I may try this today with some Indo stem and vein powder, which is inferior (and tastes like straight-up ass...) just to perfect the method.
Blessed be

[PACARI]

Hey Quantum - it is great to see your posts again!  Would you recommend using heat for all extractions or is it a time thing?  If the material and the alcohol set long enough (30 days or so) and get a good shake every couple days and are strained are they as potent as using heat or am I missing something important?  Peace.

[GershGold]

Try this tasty, easy, and very effective way of making kratom tincture:

1 teaspoon extract powder (15x was used for this)
2-3 ounces sweetened liquor (any clear liquor that's over 40 proof will do, i.e flavored vodka)

Put into small bottle (small enough so that the above mixture is almost at the top).  Cover bottle and shake every few hours.  Give it a day to brew, and decant liquid into a small glass bottle with dropper).  Replenish the liquor, cover bottle, shake, wait, and decant in 3-4 hours.

5 drops under the tongue for 10 minutes will make one a happy camper.   :