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« on: January 21, 2010, 03:06:24 PM » |
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hey im a newb with this site and kratom and have a few questions. i just ordered 14g of the Full spectrum Extract for $86 shipped from bouncing bear botanicals. Has anyone tried this stuff yet? Im just wondering how much i should take of this stuff. since its an extract i know its stronger than typical doses of crushed leaf of like 12 grams just for one doseage. it says on the site that .5-1gram of the full spectrum extract should do the trick, but that seems a little low. the site also says that each gram has AT LEAST 80mg of mitragynine and according to wikipedia a typical dose is 15mg-65mg. does that sound accurate as well? any help is cool thanks
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2010, 01:31:51 PM » |
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well the package came this mornin so ill try it out later tonight and tell ya guys about it. i guess ill just do about a teaspoon. i think 1 teaspoon is a gram right? ill post later
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2010, 06:55:47 PM » |
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Sweet, I've never tried the full spectrum, so i'm curious to know what you think of it. Hopefully it goes well for you  |
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 06:05:23 PM » |
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alright so im feelin good. i took about 2 grams of the stuff in increments of .5 every twenty mins. and washed it down wit beer. defintely feels like i took a couple vic's. shit tastse horrible tho but it goes good wit beer. and just to let you know Bouncing Bear is the shit. they gave me a free gram with my purchase so thumbs up!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 06:05:38 PM » |
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last nights dose was still low (2 gram) so i upt it to about 4.5 and notice it alot more in my head and a light body high
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 11:06:49 PM » |
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My experience with 5 grams felt like less than 10mg of hydrocodone
I won't buy it again, but the 10% mitragynine standardized blew me away with just 2 grams
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 09:33:56 AM » |
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So the object is to get high? There are better things that do that, if you know where to find them.
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"The bees are sipping the wild red clover,
but they won't get drunk on it--bees never do."
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 07:38:55 PM » |
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Yes grandma, atleast most of the time it is for me. And it's hard to say which is the best substance to get high on; it probably depends on the individual. And there are other ways and substances, of course, to get high from. I get high for different reasons and from different substances, but do you have a substance which you think is the best for getting high from? Not really asking you the question of what substance but the point is like food. You could live by eating very few different foods, but why not venture out?
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2010, 09:56:18 AM » |
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I live on chocolate. In between QueShe and whatever else I potentiate it with.....Food? yeah, sometimes. I am still trying to get back to the shape I was at age 35.
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"The bees are sipping the wild red clover,
but they won't get drunk on it--bees never do."
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2010, 10:50:58 AM » |
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Not trying to offend but more of defense and awareness:
I'm dealing with an emergency situation. I have disorganized type schizophrenia and am trying to cope with hard-to-deal with effects. Not sure whether they are directly side effects from medication or a change in medication. The change was made to try and get away from a bad state that I had before, BUT now it is getting worse.
Last night I had a collection of dried leaves which I helped grow along with nature. I did a quick and effective prep; I know it was effective because for atleast three hours I had a relief from my symptoms, also along with it came pleasure and awareness of the state in which I was in.
Sometimes euphoria is recreation is looked down on. Maybe, and I think probably, because of the misuse of it. However, some people find nature and/or certain parts of it sacred or vital to an enjoyable lifestyle. I'm sure we all know the stories of indigenous cultures who still hold the importance.
It's too bad that there's the possibility of rule by man may cause a ban or law AGAINST nature or certain parts of it. Throughout my days I hope to still find an escape to the places I hold sacred, and to make a change.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 03:25:59 PM » |
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try smoking datura flowers just before they bloom. Gotta dip them in boiling water, then dry out, then crumble & make into joints. After the first one--and be very careful!! just a drag, wait for effects, try another drag... !!!Go read my Datura posts!!!... you can add other stuff to the mix if you know how it affects you....
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"The bees are sipping the wild red clover,
but they won't get drunk on it--bees never do."
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 07:19:12 PM » |
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With Kratom I used it as a tea in tea bags. I Believe 1tbsp per tea bag. The press close with an iron tea bags tea bags from mountain rose herbals. I could only drink 2 cups of that stuff. I would have the most complete sublime euphoria coupled with a very noticable anti depressant quality. The tea was wonderful to drink around in the 3 o'clock munchie hour.
My belief is with any of the extracts like 10x extracts. These products should be capsulized in '0' capsules using a capsule machine. This would be the most efficient form of use for research. Of course if your into teas. Make tea not war.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 11:06:44 PM » |
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kratom leaf? how heavy is 2 tablespoons?
I need to try kratom tea... About half an hour before bedtime! Euphoria knocks me out. But all I have right now is K2 of various flavors and the Isolate extract.
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"The bees are sipping the wild red clover,
but they won't get drunk on it--bees never do."
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 11:55:58 AM » |
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I think a tablespoon is about 3grams.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 08:20:31 PM » |
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First things First. It really depends on whether or not heaping, powdered. Just go to a head shop and buy a pocket scale. The type that hangs by weight should only cost ya a few dollars.
If you do no have a scale then you're just eyeballing all of your herbs ect. Definitely worth it if you don't want to OD on some of the things.
A digital scale costs more but you can get a more accurate measurement; you can also buy scales from the pc or office stores- the ones like walliemart but for pc or office supplies. Hanging pocket-scales around: $5
Digital around: $20+
Back to the extract... I couldn't get a desired effect by just swallowing the extract with milk (bad idea to use milk for some things). Anyone care to try by steeping?? I did not try this because I personally don't like the taste of the extract, therefore I am Not going to increase volume by adding only water. Steeping still may produce more announced effects because the alkaloids would be extracted once again by the steeping process.
I would calculate the dosage by money it's worth.
Light: $5 worth .. Heavy $10-$15 worth BUT this is by MY personal threshold.
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