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[corvus]

What am I doing wrong?

[gragatrim]

I'm not sure what strain of Kratom he sells.... But from my own experience I got effects from the boe tai kartom but not the maeng da. I felt them the most when I was laying down about to go to sleep. I would drift into and out of dreaming when still awake, it was pretty awesome. Maybe you need to just try a different strain?

[corvus]

Ok heres what happened...I measured on my balance a total of 16 grams of Kratom powder. I put 4 grams of powder in my mouth at a time and swallowed it down with fruit punch.....the taste has gotten worse since my first try. After I took 13 grams, I decided to wait 20 minutes to finish the rest. I felt nothing after 20 minutes. So I then swallowed the remainder 3 grams. NOTHING HAPPENED! The only reaction I got after all this was a slight raise in temperature on my head and body but not alot. I still have maybe 25 grams left from the bag "Seabert" sent me. I'm going to flush this crap down the toilet. I don't know if his strain is very weak or kratom just sucks balls. I totally don't recommend Kratom to anyone! Whoever is dumb enough to digest more than 16g of this useless crap must have a loose screw in their noggin. Kratom doesn't do anything. Unless you take more than 25g which I think is retarded. I don't even think anything higher than 16g will give you the experience youre looking for. The only thing you WILL experience from Kratom is a stomach ache! People don't waste your money on Kratom. I want to also state one last thing...some time ago I purchased from "seibert" the tincture of Salvia he sells online. I followed his directions and got no experience either from his product. Just a burned up skin from under my tongue. Could it be that his products are no good?

[gragatrim]

The only things I have ever gotten from him were salvia plants, and I've never had a problem with them. The strain of kratom he has must be a weak one... I would not give up on kratom if I were you, try one of the strains from BBB, I have tried maeng da and boe thai, they both worked wonders for me. Hopefully you don't give up and get a better strain.

[corvus]

ok please guide me....which POWDER for: maeng da and boe thai  is the strongest to you by the gram. I don't want to waste money on the weaker one. I want the best, the strongest. Which one and please write down the exact words for the product in BBB products purchasing section of this site....thanks.

[palmtrees228]

Same thing happened to me

[gragatrim]

Here are the links to the two I have tried:

Boe Thai: http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/thai-kratom-p-692.html?ref=2009

Maeng Da: http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/maeng-kratom-p-682.html?ref=2009

Personally I enjoyed the Boe Thai much more than the Maeng Da. I accidentally took too much of the Maeng Da and was stuck in bed for about 30 hours, but since I had taken so much I was not hurting at all from laying down all day, just some extreme vertigo and nausea if I tried to get up at all. The Boe Thai definitely was more psychoactive for me, after taking it and going to bed I felt like I was floating and dreaming while not being asleep and I feel into a very deep sleep and it was pretty amazing overall. Also since you don't wanna spend much money the Boe Thai is the way to go as it is only 10 bucks. Let me know how it goes either way.

[distant horizons]

My husband (who's investigating kratom for chronic pain) found BBB's Boe Thai to be very effective... so.. I dunno.

[Gpison]

Make a tea from the Boe Thai from BBB, works great for me. I have a very very high tolerance for opiates and this actually works great as replacement therapy.

[erhard]

hows the taste of tea with boe thai? how much do you actually put in